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| Part 1 | The Reckoning: When Fear Delays Love
Guest: Sara Cunningham | Affirming Mother & Founder, Free Mom Hugs
Before Free Mom Hugs became a global movement, it was just one mom in Oklahoma, holding a secret she didn’t know how to carry. In this first half of a two-part conversation, Sara Cunningham—founder, author, and affirming mother—opens the door to her earliest struggle: the years she resisted her son’s truth, clinging to a faith that taught her love had limits.
Together, Sara and Jeff look back on the collision between belief and belonging—the nights of prayer, the silence that stretched for years, and the moment a mother realized that “doing the right thing” had cost her time she could never get back.
This is the part of the story where fear delays love. Where theology feels like armor but becomes a cage. Where a mother’s tears mark the beginning of her unlearning.
Part 2, The Redemption, will reveal what happened next—how heartbreak became hope, and how one handmade button sparked a movement that now spans the globe. But first, Part 1 takes us to the moment before the hug, when love was still finding its way out of the closet.
Together, Sara and Jeff look back on the collision between belief and belonging—the nights of prayer, the silence that stretched for years, and the moment a mother realized that “doing the right thing” had cost her time she could never get back.
This is the part of the story where fear delays love. Where theology feels like armor but becomes a cage. Where a mother’s tears mark the beginning of her unlearning.
Part 2, The Redemption, will reveal what happened next—how heartbreak became hope, and how one handmade button sparked a movement that now spans the globe. But first, Part 1 takes us to the moment before the hug, when love was still finding its way out of the closet.
Guest: Sara Cunningham | Affirming Mother & Founder, Free Mom Hugs
Before Free Mom Hugs became a global movement, it was just one mom in Oklahoma, holding a secret she didn’t know how to carry. In this first half of a two-part conversation, Sara Cunningham—founder, author, and affirming mother—opens the door to her earliest struggle: the years she resisted her son’s truth, clinging to a faith that taught her love had limits.
Together, Sara and Jeff look back on the collision between belief and belonging—the nights of prayer, the silence that stretched for years, and the moment a mother realized that “doing the right thing” had cost her time she could never get back.
This is the part of the story where fear delays love. Where theology feels like armor but becomes a cage. Where a mother’s tears mark the beginning of her unlearning.
Part 2, The Redemption, will reveal what happened next—how heartbreak became hope, and how one handmade button sparked a movement that now spans the globe. But first, Part 1 takes us to the moment before the hug, when love was still finding its way out of the closet.
Together, Sara and Jeff look back on the collision between belief and belonging—the nights of prayer, the silence that stretched for years, and the moment a mother realized that “doing the right thing” had cost her time she could never get back.
This is the part of the story where fear delays love. Where theology feels like armor but becomes a cage. Where a mother’s tears mark the beginning of her unlearning.
Part 2, The Redemption, will reveal what happened next—how heartbreak became hope, and how one handmade button sparked a movement that now spans the globe. But first, Part 1 takes us to the moment before the hug, when love was still finding its way out of the closet.
01
| The Signal Is The Love
Guest: Peter Fulmer | Advocate & Affirming Father of 2 LGBTQ+ Kids
Love Without Asterisks is a podcast about what happens when the blueprint you’ve built your life around no longer fits the people you love most. If you have an LGBTQ+ someone in your life, this is for you. In Episode 1, Jeff welcomes longtime friend Peter Fulmer—dad to two LGBTQ kids—to show how presence, not perfection, becomes the clearest signal of love.
Jeff, in his intro, lays the foundation for what’s ahead by naming the gap between a worldview shaped by tradition and the lived reality of parenting an LGBTQ+ child. He and Peter trace how moving from fixing to listening became the turning point, and why the clearest signal amid all the cultural and religious noise is always love.
Jeff, in his intro, lays the foundation for what’s ahead by naming the gap between a worldview shaped by tradition and the lived reality of parenting an LGBTQ+ child. He and Peter trace how moving from fixing to listening became the turning point, and why the clearest signal amid all the cultural and religious noise is always love.
This is the official trailer for LOVE* (Love Without Asterisks)—a podcast for parents, friends, and loved ones learning what it truly means to love when someone you care about comes out as LGBTQ+.
Hosted by Jeff Click, Love Without Asterisks explores the emotional, relational, and spiritual renovation that happens when unconditional love collides with a worldview shaped by tradition...one influenced by faith communities, family expectations, and cultural norms that often leave people unsure of how to respond.
It’s not a Christian podcast. It’s not a woke podcast. It’s not left, and it’s not right. Love Without Asterisks serves no agenda but the one that matters most: helping you love your LGBTQ+ someone without conditions or fine print.
Hosted by Jeff Click, Love Without Asterisks explores the emotional, relational, and spiritual renovation that happens when unconditional love collides with a worldview shaped by tradition...one influenced by faith communities, family expectations, and cultural norms that often leave people unsure of how to respond.
It’s not a Christian podcast. It’s not a woke podcast. It’s not left, and it’s not right. Love Without Asterisks serves no agenda but the one that matters most: helping you love your LGBTQ+ someone without conditions or fine print.